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Convert. Don’t Sell. Use the Dip

Posted on December 31, 2025December 31, 2025 by Mr.TimothyDavid
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Convert. Don’t Sell. Use the Dip.

A practical post on using market drawdowns to make strategic Roth conversions, while still preserving the option to direct-contribute to a Roth IRA when you’re near the income limits.

Market resilience MAGI mechanics In-plan & IRA conversions Pre-tax saturation gauge

The lesson I learned the hard way (2008) — and used on purpose (2020)

Early in my career, I used to get rattled by drawdowns. I came up investing around the 2008 crisis, and I learned something that changed everything: the dips are where the future money gets made — not because we “predict bottoms,” but because we keep a plan that lets us stay in the game and make intentional adjustments.

By the time 2020 hit, I wasn’t shocked — I was prepared. I stayed the course in broad index funds, but I also made a very specific kind of “move” I like during emotional markets: repositioning.

My downturn playbook (high level)
  • Don’t sell broad exposure out of fear.
  • Reposition tactically into temporarily hated “quality” names (or sectors) when pricing is emotional.
  • Harvest tax losses in taxable accounts (when appropriate), then maintain exposure via a non-substantially identical replacement.
  • Convert, don’t liquidate: if pre-tax values are down, Roth conversions become cheaper (same shares / lower tax cost).
  • When the rebound arrives, migrate back to the core index allocation after the tactical gains normalize.

Example mindset: if a pre-tax account was $200,000 and a drawdown took it down ~40%, it might sit around $120,000. Converting at that level means more of the recovery can happen inside Roth. The mantra is simple: when it’s down… you convert.

The MAGI “unlock” near Roth IRA income limits (MFJ example)

When I was married earlier in my career, we kept brushing up against the Roth IRA income thresholds. I learned (honestly, kind of by accident) that you can use pre-tax 401(k) contributions as a staging lever to reduce AGI… and still convert strategically.

Key IRS mechanic (the part most people miss):
Roth conversion income shows up in AGI, but Worksheet 2-1 in Pub 590-A subtracts conversion/rollover-to-Roth-IRA income when computing “MAGI for Roth IRA purposes”. (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)

That means someone can be “near the line,” reduce AGI with pre-tax 401(k) deferrals, and still run a conversion plan — while understanding the difference between (a) what’s taxable this year vs (b) what counts for Roth IRA eligibility.

Important clarifications (so nobody gets tripped up)

  • You can contribute to both Traditional 401(k) and Roth 401(k) in the same year. The employee elective deferral limit is shared (aggregate). (https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plans-faqs-on-designated-roth-accounts)
  • 401(k) elective deferral limits: $23,500 (2025) and $24,500 (2026) (catch-up separate). (https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/cola-increases-for-dollar-limitations-on-benefits-and-contributions)
  • In-plan Roth conversions (Traditional 401(k) → Roth 401(k)) may be allowed by your plan. IRA → Roth IRA conversions are also common — but beware the pro-rata rule if you have after-tax basis in IRAs (“cream in coffee”). (Visual below.)
  • Roth IRA direct contributions are limited by MAGI and filing status. (See Pub 590-A Table 2-1 / Worksheet 2-1.) (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)

Worked example: MFJ near the Roth IRA limit + the “staging area” concept

Item Example number What it does
Household income (pre-planning) $260,000 Close to Roth IRA MFJ thresholds (depends on year).
Pre-tax 401(k) deferrals (both spouses) $23,500 × 2 (2025) Reduces AGI by up to $47,000 if you can max both. (https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/cola-increases-for-dollar-limitations-on-benefits-and-contributions)
Result: more “room” AGI down ~ $47,000 May move you back into the Roth IRA direct contribution zone.
Strategic Roth conversion Any amount you choose Taxable event, but Worksheet 2-1 subtracts it for Roth-MAGI eligibility math. (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)
Why this is powerful: Pre-tax is your “staging area.” You can keep building in pre-tax (tax control today), then choose when to convert to Roth — especially during market drops — so more recovery happens in Roth.

Step-by-step: the “pre-tax → conversion reaction” process (downturn edition)

  1. Keep the engine running: keep investing (401(k), IRA, taxable) instead of freezing.
  2. When markets drop, scan opportunity: look for quality that got hit by emotion (or stay purely index — your call).
  3. Reposition tactically (optional): shift a portion toward temporarily mispriced quality, with a clear plan to return to core.
  4. Taxable account tool (optional): harvest losses if appropriate, maintain exposure with a compliant replacement.
  5. Conversion tool: convert pre-tax dollars when values are down (in-plan or IRA→Roth IRA), paying tax on a smaller number so the rebound can occur in Roth.
  6. Rebalance back to core when the tactical trade matures and your gains normalize.

Decision tree: which path fits you?

START: Are you near the Roth IRA income limit for direct contributions? (Eligibility is based on MAGI “for Roth IRA purposes” — see Pub 590-A Worksheet 2-1.) YES → Can you increase pre-tax 401(k) deferrals? Traditional 401(k) lowers AGI (shared limit vs Roth 401(k)). Path A: Use pre-tax as staging area 1) Increase Traditional 401(k) 2) Direct Roth IRA contribution if eligible 3) Convert strategically (dip-timed) Path B: Already using Roth 401(k) Switch some deferrals to Traditional to manage MAGI thresholds then convert later (in-plan or IRA) Conversion choice (when the market drops) • In-plan: Traditional 401(k) → Roth 401(k) (if your plan allows) • IRA: Traditional IRA → Roth IRA (watch pro-rata if after-tax basis exists) • Principle: When it’s down, you convert — not sell — to capture the recovery in Roth

“Cream in coffee” pro-rata visual (IRA conversions)

If you have both pre-tax and after-tax basis across your IRAs, the IRS generally treats conversions as a proportionate blend (not “just the cream”). In-plan conversions are a different lane than IRA pro-rata.

Pro-rata rule (“cream in coffee”) — IRA conversion taxable portion depends on the blend After-tax basis Pre-tax IRA money (taxable on conversion) Conversion result You don’t “scoop” just cream. Converted dollars are treated as a blended ratio of basis + pre-tax across all IRAs.

Roth ordering + access timeline (contribution → conversion → access)

If your plan is “Roth as the destination,” the timeline matters: Roth IRA contributions are generally accessible first; converted amounts have their own clock/rules; and earnings are last and most restricted. (High level educational view.)

Timeline: Contribution → Conversion → Access (high-level) 1) Roth IRA contribution Accessible first (general rule) 2) Roth conversion Separate clock/rules apply 3) Earnings Most restricted category Idea: Use pre-tax as staging → convert during dips → let recovery happen in Roth.

Pre-Tax Saturation Gauge (interactive)

This calculator estimates whether your current pre-tax balance could become “hard to drain” before age 65 if it grows fast (default 10%) and you only start converting at a chosen age. It’s a planning gauge — not tax advice.

Projected balance at conversion start
$—
Years to convert
$—
Required avg annual conversion to hit ~$0
$—
Status
—
Age Start bal Growth Conversion End bal
How to use this: If your “required avg annual conversion” is consistently higher than what you can (or want to) convert each year while managing brackets, that’s a sign your pre-tax is trending toward saturation. That’s when staging + dip-timed conversions start to matter.

Mini-cheat sheet: the Roth IRA MAGI “back-out” step (why conversions don’t block eligibility)

Pub 590-A Worksheet 2-1 starts with AGI, then subtracts conversion/rollover amounts (line 2) to compute MAGI “for Roth IRA purposes.” [oai_citation:11‡IRS](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)

Worksheet concept Plain English Why you care
Start with AGI Your 1040 baseline income number This is where conversions show up as taxable income.
Subtract conversion/rollover-to-Roth-IRA income Back it out for Roth IRA eligibility math Conversion itself doesn’t “disqualify” you for direct Roth IRA contribution in that MAGI calculation. (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)
Then add certain other items (if applicable) Other adjustments/exclusions Why your MAGI for Roth purposes can differ from AGI.
Educational only. Tax rules are nuanced (plan rules, state tax, credits, phaseouts, pro-rata, etc.). Always verify with current IRS guidance and/or your tax pro. References: IRS Pub 590-A Worksheet 2-1 / Table 2-1; IRS Topic 309; IRS Roth 401(k) FAQs; IRS 2026 limit announcement. (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/p590a–dft.pdf)

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